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Scene View will not change in Format – LayOut


Once I change the dimensions in structure, then attempt to change scenes, it gained’t change to the view I had saved the scene in. It’s going to have the proper issues hidden within the completely different scene, however it stays within the unique scene’s view. I up to date to 2021 lately and this isn’t a problem I had in 2019.
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Are you able to share the .structure file so we are able to see what you’ve received? I count on that is a simple repair and is as a result of modifications you made within the SketchUp Mannequin panel which have disconnected your viewport from the scene. It could be so simple as clicking the Reset All button within the SketchUp Mannequin panel.

Gardner 3D Photos 12-15-20.structure (865.2 KB) Gardner Mannequin 10-5-20.skp (176.6 KB)

Right here is the Format file together with the sketchup mannequin. Once I hit the reset all within the Sketchup Mannequin tray that does change views once I change the scene, however then the dimensions additionally goes again to the unique scale. What I love to do is ready the dimensions then I copy and paste onto new pages after which I modify the scenes, whereas I hold the dimensions the identical. On this mannequin I simply have 3D views, however I normally have elevations and plan views that I all the time hold at 1/2″ scale.
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In case you make any settings within the SketchUp Mannequin panel that consequence within the panel part going darkish grey, these properties will likely be copied together with the viewport.
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Observe that setting the dimensions for Parallel Projection scenes and Protect Scale on Resize don’t make the Digital camera part go darkish and don’t forestall the scene from altering.

It’s best to be capable of arrange your viewports in your perspective views with out making any Digital camera settings that want a reset. Are you double clicking into the viewport to zoom the digital camera? In that case, don’t try this.

Right here I’ve copied your viewport because it was once I opened the file up off the web page…

Right here I’ve reset the viewport digital camera settings after which adjusted the sides of the viewport to provide the identical view with out modifying the digital camera properties.

Now a replica of that viewport will present the subsequent scene when chosen.
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The flexibility to set properties for a viewport and have them fastened for extra viewports could be very highly effective however it might snag you when you aren’t conscious of the properties you’ve set.

There’s something unintuitive about the best way perspective scenes are dealt with in LayOut. When coping with pictures in a web page structure utility it’s common to first crop the picture to point out the half you need after which to scale it to suit the area allotted on web page. It isn’t doable to work this manner with perspective views in LayOut. I feel that for views, the “Protect Scale on Resize” setting could be modified to “Protect Crop on Resize” or one thing like that, or another strategy to permit view scaling with out leaping again to exhibiting the entire uncropped view.



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Having the identical subject and might’t determine what’s i’m doing incorrect. assist. Connected is my structure file.

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Self-importance – Documentation.structure (1.9 MB)

It’s the identical drawback because the OP had. You’ve modified the Digital camera settings away from these within the scene. By doing so you might be telling LayOut you need that camra place forother viewports even when you change the scene. As an alternative of utilizing a single Perspective view for the scene in SketchUp and modifying the digital camera in LayOut, create your entrance and aspect elevation scenes in SketchUp and keep away from modifying the digital camera in LayOut.

I fastened your LayOut file. Observe that not one of the viewports now have modified Digital camera properties. No reset button in Digital camera within the SketchUp mannequin panel. Now when you copy a viewport and choose a distinct scene, the viewport will really show the chosen scene. Proper click on on one of many viewports and select Open with SketchUp to see the scenes and the way they’re arrange.
Self-importance – Documentation fastened.structure (3.4 MB)

“create your entrance and aspect elevation scenes in SketchUp”, this implies I’ll have a number of scenes in Sketchup for each viewport I want in LayOut. What I normally do is make copies of pages then change to the scene(s) I need in every web page. You’re saying this isn’t the perfect follow?

Thanks for the fast reply BTWY, wasn’t anticipating one this quickly.

No. It means you want a single scene for every viewport. Truly, at the very least for the views of your mannequin on this LO doc you might handle with solely two scenes for all of them. I’m not at my laptop now however once I get residence I’ll remake it once more with solely the 2 scenes for these views and add the file.

And also you’re welcome. I did it in sort of a rush as a result of I used to be on the point of depart the home.

in SU 22 the usual views (prime, backside, left, proper and so forth) had been modified so to check with the axis system of the scene, and never the “world axis”. Format 22 views will even respect those self same requirements view.

This implies which you can reuse a sketchup scene that has the proper axis positioning, utilizing one scene for all elevations, and simply change the viewport view choice (left, proper, entrance…), even when your mannequin isn’t aligned to the world axis

In case you change the scene for the viewport , you’ll have to choose mannequin orientation once more ( left proper…)

Format 2023 does viewport issues significantly better than earlier than, clicking contained in the viewport initially solely get you to “pan” mode with none scale change, so when you´re on a subscription I’d improve.

having one scene for every view does have advantages nonetheless. Possibly there’s a completely different set of Tags for every elevation, and when you override the tags for the viewport, then the visibility state for these dont get up to date when updating the mannequin, so any new tag that you just flip off in your scene, must be turned off within the overridden viewport as properly.

@Odd_Haakon_Byberg That is sensible, I assume.

My primary subject is to do with altering to completely different scenes which ends up to both the scene chosen doesn’t present or it’ll be out of view if it does change and I’ve to develop the boundary field of the mannequin to seek out it.

Maybe let me define how my workflow in LayOut is like:

  1. Create a wanted scene of a specific a part of a mannequin in Sketchup for instance Left or Proper Linen Cupboard. This manner I’ll isolate every half for additional views in LayOut.
  2. Subsequent I’ll ship both one Scene (e.g. Left Linen Cupboard) to LayOut and make completely different views of the Scene e.g. Entrance and/or Proper. I’ll copy the one view (say Entrance) and make one other view (say Proper) in the identical web page.
  3. I’ll then make a replica of the above web page and alter to a distinct Scene, say Proper Linen Cupboard and course of as beforehand performed.

The issue is available in when I attempt to change to a distinct scene within the new web page.

I’ve connected a clip exhibiting the above however for a distinct scene within the LayOut file I despatched @DaveR

In case you do something in LayOut that overrides the Digital camera properties from the SketchUp scene, altering the scene won’t present the digital camera place for the chosen scene. By modifying the Digital camera properties in LO you might be indicating you wish to ignore the digital camera settings from the scene in Sketchup. Clicking Reset within the Digital camera part of the SketchUp Mannequin panel will make the viewport use the Digital camera settings for the scene.

Modifying Digital camera properties in LO opens you as much as fairly a large number whenever you begin including dimensions and labels over the viewport. There’s no purpose to switch the Digital camera in LO, although. Your total venture may be performed with out modifying the Digital camera in any viewport.

As I wrote earlier than, I’ll rework the LO file to point out you the way you are able to do this with fewer scenes. I’m ready for my bride to get out of surgical procedure so I can take her residence first.



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Sorry to listen to about your bribe, I want her fast restoration. No rush mate.

Resetting the digital camera has performed the trick :smile: Now the remaining subject is how the mannequin goes out of view when altering the scene. Excuse me for seeming like a noob, it’s simply that this has unsettled me since yesterday and I appear to not have the endurance to know it. :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

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Did you have a look at the LO file I uploaded and the included SketchUp mannequin?

That mannequin going out of view factor is as a result of manner you arrange the SketchUp mannequin and the best way you made the modifications in LO. Once more, you’ll be able to keep away from all that drawback from the start with the appropriate arrange.

Sure I did. I don’t take note of how I setup issues in Sketchup initially, I simply get in and begin modelling. Shall be ready in your reworked file. Thanks 1,000,000 :+1:

Not attempting to provide you a tough time however that’s what creates additional work and issues for you whenever you get farther alongside within the course of. You aren’t the one one who does that, although.

Fingers crossed she’ll be able to go residence quickly. Truly, she’s most likely prepared however the docs and nurses aren’t. :smiley:

:smile: reasonably they be gradual however thorough.

I’ll recognize your greatest practices of the way you do your preliminary setups seeing how I’ll be doing extra designs within the coming future, particularly of kitchen and bed room models. And to say the OpenCutList Extension which is a HUUUUGE saver!

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