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New sketch up 2021 is lagging in macOS , m1 – Professional


I imagine that it is just the exterior monitor that’s from a Home windows system. His instance file was final edited on Mac.


oh sure! Sorry , my mistake

I’ve had one thing bizarre occur which I’ve by no means seen earlier than, the filesize jumped as much as 8mb for no cause I might see and I can’t replicate it. One thing funky was happening.

In any case, right here is one with some issues advised above performed, Does this work the identical?
3d4.skp (836.4 KB)

I’ve no hassle orbiting and zooming round this mannequin.

Just a few feedback concerning the mannequin itself…

Why is the mannequin positioned a lot off-axis? I’d have thought it will make it tougher to mannequin and preserve proper angles at proper angles, although I don’t see any ensuing issues from this, in apply.

And I see about half a dozen reversed faces (mild blue color) once I use View/Face Model/Monochrome and orbit around the mannequin. When/when you go on to render your mannequin, this will trigger issues as some (most?) renderers gained’t deal with reversed faces properly or in any respect.

For instance from one viewpoint:

… and several other extra when seen from different instructions.

Elements of your ornamental facade don’t align fairly exactly, and the vertical strips at roughly 1/64″ thick seem structurally flimsy.

I hope your present model of your mannequin works as properly in your M1 Mac because it does on my six yr outdated iMac with a modest i5 chip and Radeon R9 M395 2 GB graphics.

If not, one thing else is occurring in your machine that others right here are usually not discovering to be an issue with the mannequin itself.

SU-2021-pro on my Intel i9 CPU has no discernible lag points in any way. On my new Apple MBP 16 inch m1 the identical drawing mannequin is totally unusable because of horrendous UI lag points. SU2021-pro program has not been compiled as goal m1 native code, so the whole SU program is emulated by Apples Intel emulator → m1 machine code software program.

This needs to be unacceptable to SU customers. The truth that Trimble has compiled SU2022 for m1 proves the codebase is essentially suitable with m1 machine code. They haven’t made a newly compiled model of SU2021 as a result of they wish to pressure SU2021 customers to purchase annual licenses. When confronted with extortion from Trimble I’d relatively pay a license payment to AutoDesk and get an actual digital drafting program and skip the Trimble Hollywood set pretend solids view of the world.

I hope extra annoyed SU customers take into account becoming a member of me if Trimble refuses to do proper by SU2021 customers. We aren’t asking for any of the SU2022 new options … simply that the SU2021 code adapt to the brand new m1 actuality. And since SU2022 compiles for m1 this shouldn’t be thought of an outrageous request. Trimble drags it’s ft on updating SU as it’s, worse than every other developer I’ve interacted with since 1978. OK MSFT’s 8086 assembler product was crappy and by no means up to date once I bought it in 1984(?), however aside from MSFT assemblers, Trimble units the brand new low bar for utility improvement.

Finish of pointless rant… want to seek out AutoCAD consumer manuals if my Intel i9 CPU based mostly workstation goes on walk-about.

UPDATE — SU laborious crash. Needed to “Power Stop” after 30mins of macOS spinning seashore ball of loss of life. What a pile SU is on an m1 mac. Even customers operating SU-2022 on m1’s are complaining. Appears Trimble builders can’t optimize the compiler settings flags correctly for m1 goal.

I moved to new flat lately, however my indoor bike doesn’t match to the train room.

I do know that there’s a new model of my indoor bike, however the base body is 10 cm smaller. I requested them to vary the bottom body to suit my new house, however they refused and advised I purchase the brand new model.
I don’t perceive this, I didn’t ask for a brand new bike, solely the bottom body needs to be changed free of charge…



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When software program from Google and Microsoft doesn’t work correctly on newer Apple Macs and their working system it makes you surprise what the frequent donominator is…

SketchUp’s updates are offered as variations every year relatively than a single versionless bundle.
Subscribers get entry to all the most recent fixes and updates which are obtainable.
If you happen to occurred to have bought a traditional licensea whereas again, you’ll have gotten 12 months of sofware updates included with that buy – have you ever checked to see if you should use 2022?

I believe the most recent everlasting license upkeep contracts expired earlier than v.2022 was launched.

If you happen to pressure stop it’s not known as a crash…
The bespinning seashore ball tells you that this system is engaged on one thing you requested for…

“…If you happen to pressure stop it’s not known as a crash… The bespinning seashore ball tells you that this system is engaged on one thing you requested for…”

This assertion makes me surprise what expertise degree you’ve got with macOS. Maybe I’m misinterpreting your assertion and lacking ironic humor right here.

When a consumer asks macOS (or this system with customers focus) to carry out some process that ought to take milliseconds of CPU time to finish and as an alternative the spinning seashore ball is displayed accompanied by the UI locked as much as such an extent that solely CMD+OPT+ESC adopted by pressure stop of a program listed as “not responding” regains management of the macOS UI (even command line window cannot be summoned) … then myself and most macOS customers confer with that occasion as a tough crash of the main target program, on this case SU.

For myself I’ve been utilizing Macs because the very first introduction of the system within the sandy tan injection molded case signed on the within by the Mac improvement group. Mac paint was fairly enthralling for these of us who frolicked interacting with a Cyber-70 mainframe throughout a modem hyperlink from a inexperienced phosphor 80 char a line Wyse terminal. This isn’t my first rodeo with Apple merchandise. I discovered the Newton an exquisite slice of tech as properly and boot mine up occasionally simply because.

Good level … kind-of. Do genuinely admire that you just recommend I see if updates to my SU-2021-pro traditional license is perhaps legitimate, alas they don’t seem to be.

So sure, I did buy SU-2021-pro traditional license, however SU-2022 was NOT provided as an replace to my license. There was a minor dot revision replace obtainable months in the past which I efficiently utilized, in order that was good. Solely possibility for SU2022 was to buy a subscription ala the Adobe ball-and-chain enterprise mannequin my Wall-Avenue buddies love a lot. Just lately Adobe SP has been tanking so perhaps some shine has come off the subscription-only, software-as-a-service mannequin as of late.

sure. alas, that’s the way it works now. the 2021 traditional licence was the final of its sort, and on the time it was bought, it was explicitly stated that there wouldn’t be updates. the SAAS isn’t at all times nice however hey, you’re in an precise state of affairs the place you possibly can use it ! :slight_smile:

In a approach, it hyperlinks to dezmo’s comparaison. on one hand, softwares corporations by no means retrofit outdated variations. the best way they managed to adapt SU2021 to apple silicon was to launch SU2022. easy.
And that is very true with a SAAS firm. Why would they EVER improve outdated variations when, by the best way itself folks get the software program, they need to all get the final one ? that’s exactly the primary argument of SAAS !

@tweenulzeven makes a very good level right here. If Sketchup crashes, you’ll get a bug report, and on this bugsplat, devs can see what went fallacious.
nevertheless, when you pressure stop, it is going to be handled as a traditional stop, no bugsplat, nothing. The spiny ball is usually signal of an inner crash, caught in a loop, lack of reminiscence, making an attempt to entry a bilion-line file… however it’s not technically a crash, it’s simply the mac caught in reflexion.

Thanks for pointing this out to others. You might be fairly appropriate, everlasting license upkeep contracts expired earlier than v.2022 was launched.

Is Trimble required to make a recompiled model for m1 cpu SU-2021-pro obtainable to everlasting license SU-2021 customers: admittedly they don’t seem to be. My earlier publish mentions that for my part this could be a goodwill gesture from a developer that has been flogged for over a decade by some customers for not having expended a lot effort so as to add significant options over a few years of recent model releases. We hardly get bug fixes for crying out loud.

It’s a rooster and egg state of affairs for present personal SU-2021-pro customers. Trimble needs us to simply accept the brand new Adobe type SU-2022 subscription regiment however the document of significant dot revision updates for SU-2021 was underwhelming (YMMV) and this system runs horribly for some customers with new Apple {hardware}. Even SU-2022 house owners operating on m1 machines are usually not fully glad that SU is operating as properly for them because it did on Intel CPU’s.

Studying these studies makes me hesitant to pay for a SU-2022 subscription. One method to repair this could be for Trimble to show to SU-2021 house owners a recompiled for m1 model does run OK on my shiny new tricked out MBP-16inch-Max m1 laptop computer. If it did, then an unencumbered buy determination comes right down to SU-2022’s new options and bug fixes. This could be a good worth add proposition and a win/win for prior SU-2021 customers upgrading to SU-2022 and the Trimble CFO clearly.

Trimble has a chance to broaden the adoption of SU by assembly present customers and new clients midway. That may be far-sighted of them and I believe good for enterprise. In my opinion, Trimble’s status for worth add over many SU model cycles going again greater than a decade is just not nice. We will disagree about that view of Trimble help, because it’s depending on particular person use instances. SU-2021 not operating reliably on Apple’s solely CPU household from now and into the foreseeable future: m1 and it’s micro-codebase variants, is a inform relating to Trimble’s partnership with present SU customers. That’s what my concern boils right down to: I’m not satisfied SU any model will run reliably on m1 for a few years.

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