Sketchup 2023 replace is a giant disappointment – SketchUp

Nicely, they design software program, not bodily engineering, furnishings or structure. What can we count on?

Truly, what I ‘count on’ Is kind of totally different from what’s required of a software program developer; to completely perceive the wants of his finish consumer and accommodate.

This disconnect is going on in lots of fields of exercise; even on this thread there are feedback suggesting 2D drawings ought to turn out to be extinct, when this is able to sideline in all probability thousands and thousands of a sure sort of exhausting working, exhausting grafting, out-in-the-field sensible individuals who wrestle to make use of digital gadgets. Typically as a result of they’re phobic and typically as a result of they only don’t have that sort of mind.

Why would we discard the useful resource of their labour and talent simply so we will have a better life? The entire level of our existence as designers and draughtspeople is to speak our inside visions to people who find themselves totally different to us.

The most important drawback with SketchUp is SketchUp itself. The way in which you attract 3d is genius, the plugin eco-system is genius, however SketchUp’s idea is supposed to be be a conceptual 3d modelling software. It’s by no means meant to be a whole design and drafting software. If Trimble is sensible sufficient they need to develop an app which is extra centered on ‘severe’ enterprise, with baked-in design instruments (primarily based on current plugins) and
an honest 2nd drafting surroundings. Once more, I LOVE Sketchup, I do all my design work with it for greater than 18 years…however at all times with workarounds and plenty of persistence. The 2023 model is an instance of this dilemma and that they actually don’t have any clue which path to go subsequent. Please Trimble, do away with the restrictions and develop a brand new app primarily based on SketchUp.

Here’s what I do know:
If you rename the “Defualt” tray it reverts again to “Default”
Program has crashed 4 occasions since loading in lower than 24 hrs.
Measurement window moved to high toolbar is a distinct measurement than customary buttons
Context click on locations menu on a distinct display than the one I’m working in
Scene tabs too giant and trigger further scrolling,
Except for this there may be clearly a niche between the people who evaluation and implement adjustments and the top consumer who must be effecient and makes use of the software program in an effort to maximise productiveness. It seems to me that hole has grown wider previously few years. I’m a consumer since 2008. I don’t begrudge anybody making a revenue and I perceive the shift to the subscription mannequin. Having stated that one has to marvel what dictates the “enhancements” that every new version brings. Noone has ever polled me, the top consumer that has to make use of this product to generate revenue. There’s a clear disctinction between an organization that develops software program to generate revenue and the top consumer that makes use of it to generate revenue. If noone cares what I the top consumer needs or wants to extend my workflow then I can solely think about the hole widening.

Nor do I… and I used to be liable for switching our workplace (70 architects) from Archicad to Revit… however I additionally launched Upfront and Sketchup once they had been each first launched… and I used these intensely… nonetheless do with SU!

There may be some issues to dislike about Format and even SketchUp, however there may be additionally loads to like, in any other case we wouldn’t all be right here.

Encountering a couple of points with with SU 2023 myself:

That is in all probability good purpose to not undertake any new software program too shortly proper out of the gate, give it a month or two, see what points would possibly come up after which go for it as soon as it’s obvious that issues are going easily.

This specific bug is definitely fairly a present stopper for my Truss and Basis plugins (since they nonetheless extensively use the UI.inputbox technique). I’ve really by no means seen such a main bug earlier than with any prior releases (since 2015), so I’m a bit of shocked, however I get how issues can slip via the cracks with software program.

I can even reiterate the earlier feedback concerning the general step backwards within the icon measurement, icon and tab spacing, padding and general “largeness” to pointless parts of the view window.

Anybody at Trimble can do what the customers will do and have a side-by-side comparability of SketchUp 2022 to SketchUp 2023 and see how manifestly odd this launch seems. It appears the interface has taken a farily giant step backwards in a space-saving and environment friendly UI design.

Yuck!

…particularly once you’re in the midst of a giant undertaking with necessary deadlines, and so on. It’s additionally a purpose to have a number of variations put in in your machine, which they appear to do the whole lot they will to forestall you from doing. My close to time period aim is to get on 2022 in Monterey (at present utilizing 2020 in Excessive Sierra every day). Are 2022 and 2023 recordsdata interchangeable or will 2022 not open 2023 ones?

Sure, particularly if you end up in the midst of a giant undertaking with deadlines. I keep in mind again within the day upgrading to Home windows 7 from Win XP after which realizing my older model of AutoCAD would now not work on Home windows 7, panic ensued. Ended up commandeering my daughter’s older pc that was nonetheless operating Win XP to complete a bunch of my structural engineering initiatives earlier than I may breath lengthy sufficient to determine what to do about it.

This chance was missed, the Dynamic Parts wanted to be additional developed. What has been achieved with the Dwell Parts authoring system is disappointing.

In the event that they use it. Since there’s a new silhouette yearly.

As a result of my workflow is to take a floorplan of a constructing, create a 3D mannequin in SU, after which import that into Twinmotion for visualization functions, I by no means use Format. So I by no means thought of {that a} purpose to improve.

What I was hoping for was enhancements in efficiency on my Mac Studio Max and enhancements to the UI and basic usability.

• Wants improved solution to manage a undertaking. Tags will not be it and the Outliner (which is my principal solution to manage a mannequin as a result of I’m used to Adobe’s layers method) doesn’t provide a solution to colour code or actually even simply make textual content simpler to learn. It primarily wants folders at a minimal. Grouping dissimilar objects simply to get them collected in the identical space of the outliner is simply not workable.

• Wants a solution to save the workspace when utilizing two screens. Each time I open SU the home windows are all set again to a single monitor.

• Excessive decision PDF and JPG help. That is my massive concern with SU. If you wish to construct partitions on high of a vector PDF, you need to convert it to a low rez jpg which suggests, not one of the accuracy of the unique floorplan is obtainable in SU.

Ever tried utilizing Inkscape to transform vector pdfs to dxf? I exploit it commonly and it really works advantageous.

I lately purchased the professional license of Qcad, it’s solely 40 bucks however you’ve gotten all of the 2D instruments you’ve gotten in autocad, together with importing pdf and convert them to vectors. I transfer being utilizing it for a pair weeks now, and canceled my subscription to Draftsight, I primarily use sketchup and format, however in my nation it’s required to current all of the documentation printed and on autocad. Additionally not like Draftsight or autocad it runs natively on apple silicon macs. It’s a hidden treasure, for that value you may have all of the seats you need even on home windows or Linux, I exploit my MacBook Professional primarily but in addition have a home windows desktop for heavy work and rendering, and I put in Qcad professional there additionally with none license points.

… piping in right here to maybe say good bye after about 16 years of utilizing Sketchup. Cash is tight today and while I managed to obtain and play with SU23 earlier than my subscription ran out (excellent storm of economic pressures) means I believe I’ve nearly had sufficient of Sketchup. This all or nothing method with the subscription for business use is the final nail within the coffin as I actually cant afford to work and use Sketchup. That is the truth of subscription primarily based software program. I’ve been utilizing Sketchup since 2006/7 and acquired SU Professional as quickly as I used to be made redundant and went freelance. Now I’m left with the choice of a free net primarily based browser modeler that I’m not allowed to make use of for business functions… thanks a bunch Trimble.

Yeah all of us hate the subscription mannequin. On the “brilliant” aspect although – not that a lot has modified because the final everlasting license model of SketchUp was launched in 2021…

certain… I’ll look on the intense aspect for these of you who can afford the sub

Talking of the intense aspect, I’d wager your electrical energy is on a subscription mannequin foundation.