Sketchup 2023 replace is a giant disappointment – SketchUp

Nicely, they design software program, not bodily engineering, furnishings or structure. What can we anticipate?

Really, what I ‘anticipate’ Is kind of totally different from what’s required of a software program developer; to totally perceive the wants of his finish person and accommodate.

This disconnect is occurring in lots of fields of exercise; even on this thread there are feedback suggesting 2D drawings ought to change into extinct, when this may sideline in all probability tens of millions of a sure kind of exhausting working, exhausting grafting, out-in-the-field sensible individuals who battle to make use of digital gadgets. Typically as a result of they’re phobic and typically as a result of they only don’t have that kind of mind.

Why would we discard the useful resource of their labour and ability simply so we are able to have a neater life? The entire level of our existence as designers and draughtspeople is to speak our interior visions to people who find themselves totally different to us.

The largest drawback with SketchUp is SketchUp itself. The way in which you attract 3d is genius, the plugin eco-system is genius, however SketchUp’s idea is supposed to be be a conceptual 3d modelling instrument. It’s by no means meant to be a whole design and drafting instrument. If Trimble is sensible sufficient they need to develop an app which is extra centered on ‘critical’ enterprise, with baked-in design instruments (primarily based on current plugins) and
an honest 2nd drafting surroundings. Once more, I LOVE Sketchup, I do all my design work with it for greater than 18 years…however all the time with workarounds and a whole lot of endurance. The 2023 model is an instance of this dilemma and that they actually don’t have any clue which route to go subsequent. Please Trimble, do away with the restrictions and develop a brand new app primarily based on SketchUp.

Here’s what I do know:
If you rename the “Defualt” tray it reverts again to “Default”
Program has crashed 4 instances since loading in lower than 24 hrs.
Measurement window moved to high toolbar is a unique measurement than commonplace buttons
Context click on locations menu on a unique display screen than the one I’m working in
Scene tabs too massive and trigger further scrolling,
Apart from this there may be clearly a niche between the folks that overview and implement adjustments and the tip person who needs to be effecient and makes use of the software program in an effort to maximise productiveness. It seems to me that hole has grown wider prior to now few years. I’m a person since 2008. I don’t begrudge anybody making a revenue and I perceive the shift to the subscription mannequin. Having stated that one has to surprise what dictates the “enhancements” that every re-creation brings. Noone has ever polled me, the tip person that has to make use of this product to generate earnings. There’s a clear disctinction between an organization that develops software program to generate revenue and the tip person that makes use of it to generate revenue. If noone cares what I the tip person needs or wants to extend my workflow then I can solely think about the hole widening.

Nor do I… and I used to be chargeable for switching our workplace (70 architects) from Archicad to Revit… however I additionally launched Upfront and Sketchup once they have been each first launched… and I used these intensely… nonetheless do with SU!

There may be some issues to dislike about Format and even SketchUp, however there may be additionally rather a lot to like, in any other case we wouldn’t all be right here.

Encountering a number of points with with SU 2023 myself:

That is in all probability good motive to not undertake any new software program too shortly proper out of the gate, give it a month or two, see what points would possibly come up after which go for it as soon as it’s obvious that issues are going easily.

This specific bug is definitely fairly a present stopper for my Truss and Basis plugins (since they nonetheless extensively use the UI.inputbox methodology). I’ve really by no means seen this sort of main bug earlier than with any prior releases (since 2015), so I’m slightly stunned, however I get how issues can slip by means of the cracks with software program.

I can even reiterate the earlier feedback concerning the general step backwards within the icon measurement, icon and tab spacing, padding and general “largeness” to pointless parts of the view window.

Anybody at Trimble can do what the customers will do and have a side-by-side comparability of SketchUp 2022 to SketchUp 2023 and see how obviously odd this launch seems to be. It appears the interface has taken a farily massive step backwards in a space-saving and environment friendly UI design.

Yuck!

…particularly once you’re in the course of a giant challenge with essential deadlines, and so forth. It’s additionally a motive to have a number of variations put in in your machine, which they appear to do all the pieces they will to stop you from doing. My close to time period objective is to get on 2022 in Monterey (at the moment utilizing 2020 in Excessive Sierra each day). Are 2022 and 2023 information interchangeable or will 2022 not open 2023 ones?

Sure, particularly when you find yourself in the course of a giant challenge with deadlines. I bear in mind again within the day upgrading to Home windows 7 from Win XP after which realizing my older model of AutoCAD would now not work on Home windows 7, panic ensued. Ended up commandeering my daughter’s older pc that was nonetheless operating Win XP to complete a bunch of my structural engineering initiatives earlier than I may breath lengthy sufficient to determine what to do about it.

This chance was missed, the Dynamic Elements wanted to be additional developed. What has been carried out with the Dwell Elements authoring system is disappointing.

In the event that they use it. Since there’s a new silhouette yearly.

As a result of my workflow is to take a floorplan of a constructing, create a 3D mannequin in SU, after which import that into Twinmotion for visualization functions, I by no means use Format. So I by no means thought of {that a} motive to improve.

What I was hoping for was enhancements in efficiency on my Mac Studio Max and enhancements to the UI and normal usability.

• Wants improved option to arrange a challenge. Tags usually are not it and the Outliner (which is my most important option to arrange a mannequin as a result of I’m used to Adobe’s layers method) doesn’t supply a option to shade code or actually even simply make textual content simpler to learn. It primarily wants folders at a minimal. Grouping dissimilar objects simply to get them collected in the identical space of the outliner is simply not workable.

• Wants a option to save the workspace when utilizing two displays. Each time I open SU the home windows are all set again to a single monitor.

• Excessive decision PDF and JPG help. That is my large situation with SU. If you wish to construct partitions on high of a vector PDF, it’s a must to convert it to a low rez jpg which suggests, not one of the accuracy of the unique floorplan is offered in SU.

Ever tried utilizing Inkscape to transform vector pdfs to dxf? I exploit it usually and it really works nice.

I lately purchased the professional license of Qcad, it’s solely 40 bucks however you’ve got all of the 2D instruments you’ve got in autocad, together with importing pdf and convert them to vectors. I transfer being utilizing it for a pair weeks now, and canceled my subscription to Draftsight, I primarily use sketchup and structure, however in my nation it’s required to current all of the documentation printed and on autocad. Additionally in contrast to Draftsight or autocad it runs natively on apple silicon macs. It’s a hidden treasure, for that worth you’ll be able to have all of the seats you need even on home windows or Linux, I exploit my MacBook Professional primarily but in addition have a home windows desktop for heavy work and rendering, and I put in Qcad professional there additionally with none license points.

… piping in right here to maybe say good bye after about 16 years of utilizing Sketchup. Cash is tight nowadays and while I managed to obtain and play with SU23 earlier than my subscription ran out (excellent storm of monetary pressures) means I feel I’ve nearly had sufficient of Sketchup. This all or nothing method with the subscription for industrial use is the final nail within the coffin as I actually cant afford to work and use Sketchup. That is the truth of subscription primarily based software program. I’ve been utilizing Sketchup since 2006/7 and acquired SU Professional as quickly as I used to be made redundant and went freelance. Now I’m left with the choice of a free internet primarily based browser modeler that I’m not allowed to make use of for industrial functions… thanks a bunch Trimble.

Yeah all of us hate the subscription mannequin. On the “shiny” aspect although – not that a lot has modified because the final everlasting license model of SketchUp was launched in 2021…

certain… I’ll look on the intense aspect for these of you who can afford the sub

Talking of the intense aspect, I’d guess your electrical energy is on a subscription mannequin foundation.

The professional model is for individuals who earn cash with the assistance of the software program, I discover it very affordable the value of the SKP professional subscription, for hobbyist or individuals who don’t want all of the instruments and options of the professional model the sketchup free or Go are good options. I’d solely want we had extra updates between each new launch, and never have to attend for a whole 12 months to get some bugs mounted or new instruments. It seems to be just like the sketchup crew are engaged on bettering this system rendering, so will probably be completely price it to pay the subscription and get a greater software program sooner or later.

hmmm… Draftsight person right here… price an investigation… thx