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Undesirable adjustments to scenes – Professional


Hello,

I work on structure tasks, with sketchup 2023, skalp and Format, on home windows 10.

I normally create a number of skp information:
a fundamental one, which I import in xref then in different information in order to not have too many scenes per file (as a result of skalp can solely handle a restricted variety of scenes per file).
I’ve a file for the plans, one for the sections and facades, one for the small print, and so forth.

Regardless of this, I’ve an everyday downside with my scenes (though they aren’t that many): they “skip”, ie the place of the digicam adjustments.
For instance: I click on on the tab of a scene, it takes me correctly to the scene, from there, I stroll round in 3D, then after I click on once more on the tab of this identical scene, generally she seems with a brand new viewpoint. So I’ve to readjust it, which takes a number of time and disrupts my format displays.

I discover perhaps + the file is advanced, + it’s taking place, however I’m undecided.

I assume it’s a basic bug, however perhaps somebody discovered a approach round it?
it could be nice !

Thanks prematurely,

Benjamin

How about sharing a file that displays this behaviour in order that others can expertise it or not… and maybe higher make it easier to ?

Is that this a query about LayOut 2023? There have been a couple of stories of digicam place shifting barely in viewports which have the digicam set to Parallel Projection and a typical view as you’ll have for plan and elevation views. The LayOut group are away of this and dealing on an answer.

Are you doing this “stroll round” within the viewport in LayOut?

It’s laborious to inform what you’re actually seeing (and doing) out of your description. Is perhaps that you’re seeing the bug I referred to which isn’t “basic” or it is likely to be one thing you can change in your workflow. As @paul.mcalenan uggested, sharing your file would assist us make it easier to.

This certainly creates much more be just right for you than it’s best to have to be doing. It additionally makes it extra probably you’ll induce errors into your tasks.

Thanks for such fast solutions !

right here a hyperlink to obtain one in every of my information :

the issue occures in sketchup, not in format :
the scene “strikes” in sketchup, I imply that generally, after I go to a scene in sketchup, the viewpoint will not be anymore the viewpoint I saved. the digicam moved, and I don’t know why.
After that, it turn into an issue in format : as a result of the scene modified in sketchup, it adjustments in format. However I’am positive it’s a sketchup situation.
And I by no means stroll round within the viewport of format.

I agree with you : a number of information means a number of work, and I’d like to have just one file, however, right here, it’s a skalp situation :
If I’ve just one file, with a loooot of scenes (50 ? 100 ?), skalp will not be in a position to cope with it :
In format, if I export my presentation with my 20 ou 30 pages, some scenes can be okay, and different wont.
The “unhealthy” scenes have this situation : skalp doesnt present the hatches.

And I feel it’s as a result of after I go to a scene in sketchup, sketchup want time to point out skalp hashes, as a result of there are too many scenes. So perhaps Format simply take the preview of the scene, with out the skalp hashes ?
I assume it’s, as a result of with a number of information, with a couple of scenes by information, sketchup doesnt want time to point out skalp hashes, and format has no downside to export skalp hashes.

Sorry if it’s probably not clear, my english will not be excellent…

Thanks once more in your assist

greatest regards,

Benjamin

I’m not seeing any issues with returning to a scene in your mannequin. The scenes aren’t transferring for me. Possibly it’s one thing Skalp is doing. I had it put in as soon as however it made extra work for me than it saved so I removed it.

I’m guessing you can drastically scale back the variety of scenes you want for a venture.

One factor I did discover about your mannequin is the wrong tag utilization. I don’t know in case you did that or if Skalp did it however that’s certain to trigger you issues.
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Possibly @paul.mcalenan could have time to check out your mannequin file and see one thing completely different.

Like Dave – I’m not noticing something odd as you describe ( I don’t have Skalp )

Thanks in your solutions.

So perhaps my pc isnt sufficient powerfull !

If you happen to dont use Skalp, you dont use hatches otherwise you do it one other approach ?

It’s fairly laborious to cut back the variety of scenes. This venture is a brand new development however I typically work on rehab tasks, so I want the Existant plan, Démolition plan, Projet plan. The identical for the sections, façades…
And there are the small print, the 3D views…

The inaccurate tag utilization imply some edges and faces usually are not on layer 0 ?
How do you test that ?

Thanks once more !

Benjamin

I’ve developed my very own workaround primarily based on the strategy at Sketchucation that I discuss with.

Let’s not descend down the Format rabbit gap right here however it works very nicely for me and the way I current my development paperwork in Format…

Sure. I do hatching one other approach utilizing TIG’s Part Lower Face and hatch textures or I add the hatches in LayOut.

OK. From what I noticed within the mannequin file you shared, I’d have diminished the variety of scenes by not less than 50% if no more.

Meaning edges and faces have been given tags. They need to all be untagged. Solely teams and elements within the mannequin needs to be given tags.

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