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Sketchup loading very slowly – Professional

Lacking the whole 2nd and third ground.
I did the usual cleanup 3 cleansing, but it surely took hours so I cancelled it and saved the file when it requested too. Now I’m lacking like, rather a lot :frowning:

Go into the LayOut file. In File>Doc Setup>References, spotlight the Sketchup file. Then click on on Unlink. Then proper click on on one of many viewports linked to the Sketchup mannequin and select Open with SketchUp. Evaluate that replicate of the mannequin to your “cleaned” copy. does it nonetheless have the stuff you might be lacking from the unique?

2nd and third ground are nonetheless lacking within the SU file.
Can I discover earlier saved SU recordsdata somewere? :crossed_fingers:

So listed below are some issues I see in your LayOut file and the SketchUp file embedded within the LayOut file.

As I wrote earlier than, my first cease was References. There’s a really lengthy record of references. Discover the grey rectangle on the prime of the scrollbar on the appropriate.

After purging the file the grey rectangle is about 3 times as lengthy. There’s nonetheless lots of references however not practically as many as earlier than.

The embedded Sketchup file I checked out exhibits just a little incorrect tag utilization–we talked about that earlier than.
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Various unused stuff to purge, as nicely.
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After the purge the file measurement dropped from 171,691 Kb to 104,833 Kb, a discount of 38.9%. This may cut back the LO file measurement, too. I haven’t appeared on the different three SketchUp recordsdata utilized in your LayOut undertaking however I’d count on comparable outcomes with them.

After purging that one .skp file and the LAyOut file, the LayOut file measurement was decreased by 48%. If the opposite three Sketchup recordsdata are purged and there are comparable file measurement reductions, you’d see extra discount within the LayOut file.

One other factor I see is that you’ve insert a lot of pictures. I picked one at random to look at. On the web page the picture is 1.3 inches (33mm) broad. The unique picture is a bit more than twice that measurement.

By itself that not a giant deal however when you’ve got so many pictures, that provides up.

Right here’s an instance I made utilizing two copies of the identical picture. The underside one is the unique measurement out of the digital camera and the highest one was decreased to a measurement acceptable for the scale on the web page. In case you have been to print this PDF at 300 dpi you’d see no profit to the bigger picture. The small picture is 1% of the file measurement of the bigger one.
Picture comparability.pdf (375.1 KB)

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They’re lacking within the embedded copy of the file from LayOut?

At this level it could be a longshot however you can take a look at the .skb backup copy of the file which needs to be in the identical listing because the .skp file.

I’m wondering what parameters you had set for CleanUp3 that may make it delete the second and third cloors of your mannequin. Did you attempt turning on all the tags?

After I activate all the tags and present the hidden stuff, I see this in your mannequin from LayOut.

I’d strongly urge you to make use of tags to regulate the visibility of the partitions and roof as an alternative of utilizing Disguise. It’s simpler to regulate the visibilty of the objects and you may management that visibilty in LayOut.

Wanting on the different .skp recordsdata on this LayOut file.

MVD_Gameroom – Geldrop:

Tag repair
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File measurement discount: 64%.

MVD_Kantoorpand Eindhoven:

Tag repair
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File measurement discount: 23%.

MVD_woonhuis Eindhoven:

Tag repair
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File measurement discount: 50%.

I didn’t undergo the textures in these recordsdata however doubtless there are some that would tolerate being decreased.

One other factor I discover in your LayOut file is plenty of viewports which have the Digital camera properties modified. We talked about this earlier than. Modifying the digital camera properties could cause you issues in a while beause it breaks a part of the hyperlink between the SketchUp scene and the viewport. I additionally see lots of locked viewports. Locking is okay for stopping the viewports from getting moved however you must unlock them to get them to replace when the Sketchup mannequin will get edited. I feel it’s higher to place the viewports on their very own layer separate from the size, labels, different textual content, and pictures. Then lock the layer if you’d like. The locked layer gained’t forestall the viewports from being up to date.

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Discovered each flooring again, unsure what occurred however glad they’re full once more (nearly had a coronary heart assault over right here :sweat_smile:)

Could I ask, what number of occasions do you purge/verify tag geometry/resize supplies. Everytime you save your file or what would you recommend?

And sure, I exploit lots of pictures in the long run presentation for my consumer. Good you confirmed me the instance. To be hounest, I simply copy/paste them from the web with out checking their measurement. What do you employ to resize them, is that this one thing in Structure or do you verify each single picture externally up entrance?

I exploit Outliner and Tags as a lot as doable for hiding issues in SU.
Thanks once more in your very fast reply.

After your suggestions, SketchUp once more may be very sluggish. Will re-start my system now, hope that helps.

Unsure why this file is in LayOut, because it has nothing to do with the precise undertaking i’m engaged on. Thats actually bizarre!

In regards to the viewports in LO, typically it doesn’t present the scene that I created in SU. Though that’s the one I chosen in Structure, in then simply exhibits one thing else or one other angle. If I alter the angle, I nonetheless don’t see the scene that I’ve created up entrance. Are you accustomed to this?

Whole lot.

In my very own recordsdata I purge pretty recurrently after ensuring I don’t really want any of the elements within the mannequin. Among the extensions I exploit create further part definitions that wind up in Mannequin however aren’t used within the mannequin house so purging is necessary. I don’t must verify my very own fashions for proper tag utilization as a result of I’ve very cautious with my very own modeling. I count on a minimum of a number of the tagged geometry in your fashions comes with elements from the 3D Warehouse. I create all of my very own elements even for issues I may discover within the Warehouse. I favor mine. As for resizing supplies I don’t have to try this fairly often as a result of I be certain the pictures aren’t too massive earlier than I exploit them to create the supplies within the first place. Once more, I count on you might be getting a few of your massive textures with elements from the 3D Warehouse.

It appears to me that most of the elements of us such as you would possibly select to make use of are created by customers who aren’t pondering of them as small components of a a lot bigger story. They’re modeling this stuff as if they’re the one factor within the mannequin. Right here’s a small instance. The twine from the keyboard to the again of the iMac has 5767 entities. Nearly all of them are in a tangle behind the show the place they’ll’t be seen. That provides to your file measurement with out including something to your “story”. In all probability the twine could possibly be eliminated fully from the mannequin and nobody would discover.

I used to be going to say the copying and pasting factor. I’d strongly recommend that as an alternative of copying and pasting, you obtain the pictures right into a folder in your laptop. Then use File>Insert so as to add them into the LayOut undertaking. That manner, if the interior reference in some way turns into corrupt, you continue to have the unique reference file to fall again on and also you don’t should go ut to the web to hunt for the picture once more.

I exploit a free picture editor referred to as PaintDotNet however you should utilize your favourite picture editor. I’d usually resize them earlier than inserting them but when I don’t understand how large the picture might be till I get it into LayOut, it’s simple sufficient to edit the picture and replace the reference. In case you go into LayOut’s Preferences you’ll be able to set your picture editor because the default. Then you’ll be able to proper click on on a picture and select Open with… Make the edit and save to replace it. Very similar to working with SketchUp recordsdata in LayOut.

Disguise in SketchUp can’t be managed in LO however tag visibility will be.

Which one? The 4 that I went by way of have been all left within the LayOut file after purging LayOut. That might point out there’s a minimum of one viewport within the doc that makes use of that file.

This comes from modifying the Digital camera properties for the viewport in LayOut. That modification overrides the digital camera properties (place, angle of view, and many others) that you just set in SketchUp. And for those who copy a viewport that has modified digital camera properties and alter the scene, the digital camera gained’t change since you’ve already advised LayOut you need to use your modified Digital camera properties. Clicking Reset will return to the scene’s Digital camera properties. As i’ve talked about to you earlier than, it’s greatest to not modify the Digital camera properties. Keep away from getting the Reset button within the Digital camera part of the SketchUp Mannequin panel.

By the best way, right here’s one other couple of issues to look out for. I’m simply utilizing the identical mannequin as earlier than. The books up within the nook on the shelf: There’s unneeded ranges of nesting which you’ll see in Outliner.
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Eliminating the unneeded ranges will assist to scale back file measurement and make the mannequin simpler to cope with.

Right here I’ve pulled out one of many books. Each the back and front covers have a fabric which is a waste since that may’t be seen.

The feel picture for the e-book. Does the barcode really add something?

Generally you simply should take a surgical strategy to cleansing up objects earlier than you add them to your initiatives.



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